Democrats mock efforts to defund PBS: ‘Are Bert and Ernie part of an extreme homosexual agenda?’

U.S. Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA) speaks in front of poster of Sesame Street's Bert and Ernie during a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing at the U.S. Capitol on March 26, 2025 in Washington, DC. The heads of NPR and PBS appeared before the House Subcommittee on Delivering on Government Efficiency to address allegations of bias in their programming against conservatives.

Democratic representative Robert Garcia mocks Republican efforts to defund the channel that hosts Sesame Street (Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)

Democratic congressman Robert Garcia has mocked Republican efforts to defund the TV channel that airs Sesame Street, sarcastically asking if characters Bert and Ernie were “part of an extreme homosexual agenda”.

Garcia’s comments came at a congressional hearing on Wednesday (26 March) which heard a Republican-led case for defunding broadcasters the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) and National Public Radio (NPR), over alleged “bias” against conservatives.

During Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) hearing, PBS and NPR were accused of being “radical, left-wing echo chambers” with “anti-American” bias.

Committee chairwoman Marjorie Taylor Greene called for the channels to be stripped of public funding. “For far too long, federal taxpayers have been forced to fund biased news. This needs to come to an end. And it needs to come to an end now,” she said.

Greene claimed that the broadcasters’ audiences were mainly made up of “wealthy, white, urban liberals and progressives, who generally look down on, and judge, rural America”. She accused PBS, which has aired Arthur and Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood, of being “part of transing children, brainwashing children about gender”.

Garcia responded by asking sarcastic questions of PBS chief executive Paula Kerger, to highlight Greene’s anti-LGBTQ+ stance .

“These two guys actually live together. They’re friends. They’re supportive of each other,” Garcia said of Bert and Ernie. “Now that might be triggering to our chairwoman… are Bert and Ernie part of an extreme homosexual agenda? The American people want to know: is Elmo now, or has he ever been, a member of the Communist Party of the United States? Yes or no.”

After Kerger responded “no”, Garcia followed up with: “Are you sure, Ms Kerger because he’s obviously red?”

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The California congressman added that he was “obviously using some humour here” but that the issue of defunding public TV was “not funny”.

The phrase “Fire Elon Save Elmo” started to trend after the hearing, with many on social media expressing their support for PBS and condemning Musk, who was appointed to head up DOGE in January, by Donald Trump.

“At a time where we can’t agree on basic facts, and while the free press is under attack, we need public media like PBS and NPR more than ever,” Garcia said. “A large majority of Americans say they trust PBS, and that’s exactly why extremists are trying to tear it down.

“If we’re gonna get rid of any puppeteers, we should get rid of the one that’s controlling Donald Trump.

Garcia then used the phrase: “Fire Elon Musk and save Elmo”.

Fellow Democrat Greg Casar pointed out that “total funding for public broadcasting is just one-sixth the amount that Elon Musk’s companies make off the government every year but you will not see Elon Musk being grilled by this committee.”

Are Bert and Ernie gay?

The Sesame Street characters Bert and Ernie are best friends who live together and share a bedroom, so rumours have swirled since the show began in 1969 that they are gay.

The company behind the show has long maintained that the pair “do not have a sexual orientation”, with Sesame Workshop’s Gary Knell saying they “are not gay, they are not straight, they are puppets”.

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